Thanks, Roman. I have an iPhone 7, which I turn off and put in a metal breadbox at night. It hasn't been updated since 2019, and when it dies, I'll likely get a flip phone. The only thing I'd really miss is taking photos with it. But, I'm sure I'd survive. My router is off all night as well. But, honestly, I can't believe this is what we've evolved into. It hurts my brain to even think of how addicted we've become to technology. I'm old enough to remember the big black rotary phone we had on our wall growing up and I'd be okay going back to it. I do have a corded landline which I rarely use. I don't like talking on the phone anyway but I should get back in the habit of using it instead of texting. ☎️
I hear you Barbara. I can say that having a corded landline forces me to remain present with the person on the phone, and we actually have a fruitful conversation. Plus the connection quality is superior. There's also a feeling of living like in the early 90s, before caller id, not knowing who was on the other line, but fearlessly picking up anyway (however I do let it go to answering machine many times). You're so right- how addicted we've truly become- and many of us are blind to it, until we step back and really look at things. Phones in tins...my o my, but that's what is needed for many. I can still remember the smell of that heavy rotary receiver in my old home too, actually, it was my grandfather's office. I loved the phone though, wish I had kept it. Thanks for chiming in!
I was born in 1953! We had a phone in the kitchen AND in the basement. That was a pretty big deal. I kind of miss the feel and sound of dialing the rotary. Sometimes I feel like we all need to stop and turn around and go back a bit. At least we're pondering these thoughts rather than being blindly addicted, I guess! :)
Hey, you can still get a phone without a sim card and use it for music and photos and exchange the data with a USB to your PC. No need for Faraday or metal boxes!
Great point Proton. I still have old android phones that I hold onto for this purpose, I use them as "ipods." I also remember when I went to Italy back in 2015 common practice was to buy sim cards for our phones.
Then Barbara and others who dont want to be bothered with the Faraday can still have lots of functions without a SIM, use VPN, and even phone aps thru their WiFi. How much privacy hooking up to WiFi this gives up I'm not sure exactly, there is also "device ID", but I dont know what is and is not private, but I'm pretty sure the no-sim no Wifi use phone is pretty secure, esp with the power off..
Yes, WiFi is often less secure than a hardwired connection, plus personally I'd rather people not use WiFi - but I guess this is where WiFi safety and privacy come to a crossroads. It's still an alternative worth exploring, so thank you for your thought.
You want to push me down a rabbit hole, don't you? (: Thanks though, you've given me some thoughts for another post.
Roman, I also want to push a bit further on the topic of products without SIMs, or even the capacity for a SIM.
I had a borrowed iPad for a while, with no SIM and apparently no capacity to take a SIM. If I wanted to connect to the internet I hot spotted off my phone. I found that I got neuropathy symptoms while I was using the iPad when NOT connected to my phone, while I do not get those same neuropathy symptoms while using my connected phone. I started being very careful to not have the iPad in my bedroom at night, and limited my use of it, as it was clearly making me sicker than my live phone.
I now have an android Lenovo tablet, and after the initial new product toxic smell wore off, it is not obviously affecting me the way the iPad did.
I started to question whether the iPad, even one that has no capacity for a SIM, is still "pinging" somehow. Did you get an answer to that question (discussed below)?
The hot spot does increase the EMF dramatically, as you now have two magnetic fields that couple and create a multiplicative effect. The iPad is also closer to a computer in terms of processing ability, so gives out more radiation and radiofrequency as compared to a phone. In terms of pinging, this depends on how you have the iPad configured. Many apple devices are constantly checking for app updates in the background, so it's important to have these updates checked off in the settings. Best thing is to just put it in airplane mode. When you say you were using your "connected" phone, how was it connected? Did you hardwire it with an adapter? or just mean it was connected in general to wifi, etc?
My phone is my only internet connection. I run my computer and tablet connection off my phone. That's it. Of my phone dies I have no internet access. Sorry I was not clear. The iPad has no sim or capacity for a sim. It does have the capacity to connect to something that does have a sim, and yes I am sure it is emitting massive emfs when connected to my phone. However, the iPad was highly toxic when NOT connected. Sure it looks for updates when it is connected, but what is it doing when it is not connected to anything that I know of in any way?
Thanks for clarifying Christine. That's the million $ question, now isn't it? Are you asking what the iPad is doing when it is in airplane mode, or just on wifi and/or cellular? It's tough to know. However the gps antenna and cellular are constantly pinging. This is why I also recommend always having these off if you can, as well as bluetooth.
I never understood why a tablet that cannot accept a sim needs airplane mode, but yes, my iPad did have this seemingly pointless feature. I thought it was my phone looking for the tablet when I tell it to, rather than the tablet looking for something to connect to without me telling it to.
I hear you Christine. It's confusing for sure. Even though the iPad doesn't have a sim, it has multiple antennas: bluetooth, wifi, gps, that are constantly co-locating and transmitting, therefore drawing EMF and pushing it out as well. It can work both ways depending on the setup, the tablet can look for the phone, or phone to tablet.
Can I ask two simple questions. In your video you show putting your phone in a biscuit tin, and you then put that tin in a wooden bread bin.
First question, I have checked a few op shop tins and they are a gold colour inside, even quite old ones. Do the tins need to be aluminium, and are these gold coloured ones aluminium or something else?
Second question, how much insulation from EMFs does a strong thick wooden box give? I have a good box that is 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch thick. Can it replace the biscuit tin?
Hi Christine. Yes you could in theory use another metal, but aluminum works best in cancelling EMF signal. The military uses steel, but they probably work with a higher grade than we have.
I only placed the tin box in wooden bread bin for increased sound insulation. Wood won't cancel EMFs, however may absorb some EMF. Tin / aluminum is best. Just make sure to test it out if you can, by calling the phone when it's in the box to see if it rings.
Great article that empowers the poor. I personally cannot even afford a landline - the cost is much higher than prepaid mobile plans, so WiFi it is. But I can afford a biscuit tin from a charity shop. Thank you.
I'm so happy I could give you some information to empower you. Just make sure the tin is blocking the EMF call frequency, if you can use another phone to call the phone when it's in the tin. Then when it's in the tin, I put in on airplane mode, so it's not creating a strong EMF inside of the tin.
Interesting, Roman, thanks. Sorry if I repeat some question already made by others. 1. Why buy an iPhone in the first place? 2. Why do you put the iPhone switched on into the box (or was that just to make presentation faster)? 3. Have you ever considered switching to some de-googled phone (like LineageOs, GrapheneOs -although the name gives me chills-, CalyxOs). Yes, phone companies/agencies will always have means to spy on users anyway, but maybe a little less... 4. How can you be sure "they" don't spy over the landline also? Just my two cents. Thanks
Thanks, Roman. I have an iPhone 7, which I turn off and put in a metal breadbox at night. It hasn't been updated since 2019, and when it dies, I'll likely get a flip phone. The only thing I'd really miss is taking photos with it. But, I'm sure I'd survive. My router is off all night as well. But, honestly, I can't believe this is what we've evolved into. It hurts my brain to even think of how addicted we've become to technology. I'm old enough to remember the big black rotary phone we had on our wall growing up and I'd be okay going back to it. I do have a corded landline which I rarely use. I don't like talking on the phone anyway but I should get back in the habit of using it instead of texting. ☎️
I hear you Barbara. I can say that having a corded landline forces me to remain present with the person on the phone, and we actually have a fruitful conversation. Plus the connection quality is superior. There's also a feeling of living like in the early 90s, before caller id, not knowing who was on the other line, but fearlessly picking up anyway (however I do let it go to answering machine many times). You're so right- how addicted we've truly become- and many of us are blind to it, until we step back and really look at things. Phones in tins...my o my, but that's what is needed for many. I can still remember the smell of that heavy rotary receiver in my old home too, actually, it was my grandfather's office. I loved the phone though, wish I had kept it. Thanks for chiming in!
I was born in 1953! We had a phone in the kitchen AND in the basement. That was a pretty big deal. I kind of miss the feel and sound of dialing the rotary. Sometimes I feel like we all need to stop and turn around and go back a bit. At least we're pondering these thoughts rather than being blindly addicted, I guess! :)
Hey, you can still get a phone without a sim card and use it for music and photos and exchange the data with a USB to your PC. No need for Faraday or metal boxes!
Great point Proton. I still have old android phones that I hold onto for this purpose, I use them as "ipods." I also remember when I went to Italy back in 2015 common practice was to buy sim cards for our phones.
Can the phone without sim still use WiFi?
Good question. I'm not sure, but now you have me thinking. I'll have to test it. Why do you ask?
Then Barbara and others who dont want to be bothered with the Faraday can still have lots of functions without a SIM, use VPN, and even phone aps thru their WiFi. How much privacy hooking up to WiFi this gives up I'm not sure exactly, there is also "device ID", but I dont know what is and is not private, but I'm pretty sure the no-sim no Wifi use phone is pretty secure, esp with the power off..
Yes, WiFi is often less secure than a hardwired connection, plus personally I'd rather people not use WiFi - but I guess this is where WiFi safety and privacy come to a crossroads. It's still an alternative worth exploring, so thank you for your thought.
You want to push me down a rabbit hole, don't you? (: Thanks though, you've given me some thoughts for another post.
THANK YOU! I'm taking a screenshot of this discussion with Roman! :)
Roman, I also want to push a bit further on the topic of products without SIMs, or even the capacity for a SIM.
I had a borrowed iPad for a while, with no SIM and apparently no capacity to take a SIM. If I wanted to connect to the internet I hot spotted off my phone. I found that I got neuropathy symptoms while I was using the iPad when NOT connected to my phone, while I do not get those same neuropathy symptoms while using my connected phone. I started being very careful to not have the iPad in my bedroom at night, and limited my use of it, as it was clearly making me sicker than my live phone.
I now have an android Lenovo tablet, and after the initial new product toxic smell wore off, it is not obviously affecting me the way the iPad did.
I started to question whether the iPad, even one that has no capacity for a SIM, is still "pinging" somehow. Did you get an answer to that question (discussed below)?
The hot spot does increase the EMF dramatically, as you now have two magnetic fields that couple and create a multiplicative effect. The iPad is also closer to a computer in terms of processing ability, so gives out more radiation and radiofrequency as compared to a phone. In terms of pinging, this depends on how you have the iPad configured. Many apple devices are constantly checking for app updates in the background, so it's important to have these updates checked off in the settings. Best thing is to just put it in airplane mode. When you say you were using your "connected" phone, how was it connected? Did you hardwire it with an adapter? or just mean it was connected in general to wifi, etc?
My phone is my only internet connection. I run my computer and tablet connection off my phone. That's it. Of my phone dies I have no internet access. Sorry I was not clear. The iPad has no sim or capacity for a sim. It does have the capacity to connect to something that does have a sim, and yes I am sure it is emitting massive emfs when connected to my phone. However, the iPad was highly toxic when NOT connected. Sure it looks for updates when it is connected, but what is it doing when it is not connected to anything that I know of in any way?
Thanks for clarifying Christine. That's the million $ question, now isn't it? Are you asking what the iPad is doing when it is in airplane mode, or just on wifi and/or cellular? It's tough to know. However the gps antenna and cellular are constantly pinging. This is why I also recommend always having these off if you can, as well as bluetooth.
I never understood why a tablet that cannot accept a sim needs airplane mode, but yes, my iPad did have this seemingly pointless feature. I thought it was my phone looking for the tablet when I tell it to, rather than the tablet looking for something to connect to without me telling it to.
I hear you Christine. It's confusing for sure. Even though the iPad doesn't have a sim, it has multiple antennas: bluetooth, wifi, gps, that are constantly co-locating and transmitting, therefore drawing EMF and pushing it out as well. It can work both ways depending on the setup, the tablet can look for the phone, or phone to tablet.
Can I ask two simple questions. In your video you show putting your phone in a biscuit tin, and you then put that tin in a wooden bread bin.
First question, I have checked a few op shop tins and they are a gold colour inside, even quite old ones. Do the tins need to be aluminium, and are these gold coloured ones aluminium or something else?
Second question, how much insulation from EMFs does a strong thick wooden box give? I have a good box that is 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch thick. Can it replace the biscuit tin?
Hi Christine. Yes you could in theory use another metal, but aluminum works best in cancelling EMF signal. The military uses steel, but they probably work with a higher grade than we have.
I only placed the tin box in wooden bread bin for increased sound insulation. Wood won't cancel EMFs, however may absorb some EMF. Tin / aluminum is best. Just make sure to test it out if you can, by calling the phone when it's in the box to see if it rings.
Does this help answer your questions?
Great article that empowers the poor. I personally cannot even afford a landline - the cost is much higher than prepaid mobile plans, so WiFi it is. But I can afford a biscuit tin from a charity shop. Thank you.
I'm so happy I could give you some information to empower you. Just make sure the tin is blocking the EMF call frequency, if you can use another phone to call the phone when it's in the tin. Then when it's in the tin, I put in on airplane mode, so it's not creating a strong EMF inside of the tin.
Interesting, Roman, thanks. Sorry if I repeat some question already made by others. 1. Why buy an iPhone in the first place? 2. Why do you put the iPhone switched on into the box (or was that just to make presentation faster)? 3. Have you ever considered switching to some de-googled phone (like LineageOs, GrapheneOs -although the name gives me chills-, CalyxOs). Yes, phone companies/agencies will always have means to spy on users anyway, but maybe a little less... 4. How can you be sure "they" don't spy over the landline also? Just my two cents. Thanks
Oh, yes, forgot to mention Mr Snowden's approach to buy only phones where one can detach mic's. Maybe those phones today do not even work anymore...