I listened to the whole discussion. Being a woman, I didn't once feel disenfranchized by your comments. I'm inspired. Now I want to reread "The Medium is the Massage", which was a college text of mine.
One digital disconnect mechanism is stillness meditation, which I do frequently. I also take tech breaks by going for walks and doing Hatha yoga; taking hour long mineral baths; and sunbathing all year round when the sun ray heat is warm enough. I agree that it's really important to disconnect from tech to remember what it means to be human. In your words, I do activities that re-embody my soul.
Thanks so much for your insights. I had no idea how fast technology has changed society until you walked me through the significant times when new technology was introduced... in my life time.
Robin hello. I think the book you're referencing is UNDERSTANDING MEDIA, 1964. However, THE MEDIUM IS THE MASSAGE is like a short illustrated version that sums up the ideas quite nicely. However, there is no substitute for the mind-blowing original, which is also taught regularly by grandson Andrew McLuhan.
I really like what Roman said at 1:18:40. He describes what screen EMR does to the physical body: makes us high by irradiating/ stimulating the pineal and thyroid glands, speeds up the metabolism and breath, and increases blood acidity. It creates a shallow sympathetic state of flight and fight while it disembodies us. Check mate!
I stopped watching at 43 minutes - deciding I had wasted enough time already on what seems to me as something to be expected from controlled opposition. I would have expected you, Roman, to have done your due diligence and have read 'The [1848] Declaration of Sentiments and Resolutions' (as referred to in the presentation by Coppolino). It is not the first time that I have listened to men pontificating as if they know more about what it is like to be a woman (let alone an oppressed woman in a male dominated world). Yes, I am well aware that some women seem more than happy to be 'kept' and to be 'dominated' and 'oppressed' and even 'abused'. But I have spent far too many years helping women out of dangerous and destructive 'relationships' to "know its true when it happens to you". If Coppolino is a 'friend' of yours, then perhaps that says something about you.
I'm sorry you feel this way Angela. I do not know what it is like to be a woman, but I do know what it's like to feel the same human emotions of guilt, passion, etc. The point Eric was making is that the Declaration of Sentiments was an opening salvo to a much more destructive feminist movement, using violence and coercion through the 20th century, and was behind movements like the "white feather" whereupon guilt was laid on young boys, pushing a generation of males to eradicate one another.
Eric and I were equally critical of males, and the "gaslighting" many experience, right before the 43 min mark.
There is the publicly available version of your claimed 'destructive feminist movement' and there is the one I suugest you are so young as to have never heard about - because women advocating for equality of opportunity (i.e, 'equity' not 'equality' acknowledging we are different) were censored/cancelled. The relatively recent ideological subversion malarky has been going on for decades (as Yuri Bezmenov warned us about). Notably, "divide people into hostile groups by constantly discussing controversial issues of no importance". If you are not a feminist (i.e., advocating equality of opportunity for both men and women) then why not? I suggest you take away your descriptor "destructive" and I repeat, have you read that 1848 document and considered it in the context of the time it was made? As recently as the 1960's, women were forced to resign from public service if they married - and it was not until the 1970's that some of us broke barriers to girls being allowed to study woodwork and metalwork instead of deportment and cookery. It was not until the 1980's (if not later) that we were allowed to train as pilots. We were warned that the advent of equality of opportunity would not change the views of ingrained sexist men - and that many would pass their views down to their sons. In other words, what was overt became covert. Even today, in some cultures, women still have to cover their faces and can't drive cars - because men say so (and, yes, some women are happy to be subordinate - because that has been their entire conditioning since birth). Think for one moment about the invisibility cloak that systematically drapes (and micromanages out) older women in practically every 'civilized' western country - while older men are allowed to continue contributing, despite also being grey haired and wrinkled. Sorry, Roman, but maybe stick to your lane - and maybe choose your friends more wisely.
Here is my interview with Janice Fiamengo, which factchecks the document in the context of the times it was written.
You can be sure I studied this document carefully, along with its context, and that I personally went to Seneca Falls last year to see and document the location where it was signed, visit the museum and talk to the guides. One of them told me a real whopper when he left out the history of "AN ACT for the effectual protection of the property of married women" passed into law several months before the Seneca Falls convention.
There are many core lies of the document. They include how women cannot have wealth; they cannot get educated; and all men want to enslave all women. There were many wealthy women in the room. Stanton herself was educated at the Troy Seminary, Oberlin was accepting women, and there were many other women's colleges being formed. The reason was their fathers wanted their daughters to be educated.
But if you read only the Declaration of Sentiments (sentiments? Really?) you would know none of that. But the most disgusting lie is that "all men want to enslave all women." This is a lie that is on the scale of Joseph Goebbels. A great many men care deeply for their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters and would do anything for them, whether work in a coal mine to support them or go to war to protect them.
I reject out of hand the entire document based on this most disturbing, revolting false premise.
I am a former radical feminist; my literary specialty as a Master's candidate was 20th century women poets (Rutgers, under Dr. Carol Smith), including Piercy, Plath, H.D., Rich, and others. I can practically recite Diving Into the Wreck. I have nearly memorized Compulsory Heterosexality.
Though I was never a gender studies student, I read many of the noted works of 19th and 20th century feminism and was close friends with (and astrologer for 25 years to) Betty Dodson (1929-2020), the founder and pioneer of sexpositive feminism and the author of SEX FOR ONE.
The missing context of the Seneca Falls document is the electrical revolution. And that is what I cover in this discussion and on my program ongoing. We are still in it, and women are not doing well in digital times. Many are desperately lonely, alienated and out of contact with their bodies. They continue to suppress menstruation, abort children and have "top surgery" so they can pretend to be men.
Here is a detailed discussion on Seneca Falls "Declaration of Sentiments" with Janice Fiamengo.
Powerful stuff told with levity and joy. Thanks guys. Where can I find a transcript that's downloadable or can copy/paste?
Usually the transcript is with the video, Navyo. Poke around the page above and you should find it. Write back if you cannot...
Thank you Navyo for appreciating our interview! What did you find most insightful or valuable about the discussion?
Fyi if you go to the top, to the right of the like/comment/ share button, you should see "transcript"
I listened to the whole discussion. Being a woman, I didn't once feel disenfranchized by your comments. I'm inspired. Now I want to reread "The Medium is the Massage", which was a college text of mine.
One digital disconnect mechanism is stillness meditation, which I do frequently. I also take tech breaks by going for walks and doing Hatha yoga; taking hour long mineral baths; and sunbathing all year round when the sun ray heat is warm enough. I agree that it's really important to disconnect from tech to remember what it means to be human. In your words, I do activities that re-embody my soul.
Thanks so much for your insights. I had no idea how fast technology has changed society until you walked me through the significant times when new technology was introduced... in my life time.
Robin hello. I think the book you're referencing is UNDERSTANDING MEDIA, 1964. However, THE MEDIUM IS THE MASSAGE is like a short illustrated version that sums up the ideas quite nicely. However, there is no substitute for the mind-blowing original, which is also taught regularly by grandson Andrew McLuhan.
I really like what Roman said at 1:18:40. He describes what screen EMR does to the physical body: makes us high by irradiating/ stimulating the pineal and thyroid glands, speeds up the metabolism and breath, and increases blood acidity. It creates a shallow sympathetic state of flight and fight while it disembodies us. Check mate!
I stopped watching at 43 minutes - deciding I had wasted enough time already on what seems to me as something to be expected from controlled opposition. I would have expected you, Roman, to have done your due diligence and have read 'The [1848] Declaration of Sentiments and Resolutions' (as referred to in the presentation by Coppolino). It is not the first time that I have listened to men pontificating as if they know more about what it is like to be a woman (let alone an oppressed woman in a male dominated world). Yes, I am well aware that some women seem more than happy to be 'kept' and to be 'dominated' and 'oppressed' and even 'abused'. But I have spent far too many years helping women out of dangerous and destructive 'relationships' to "know its true when it happens to you". If Coppolino is a 'friend' of yours, then perhaps that says something about you.
I'm sorry you feel this way Angela. I do not know what it is like to be a woman, but I do know what it's like to feel the same human emotions of guilt, passion, etc. The point Eric was making is that the Declaration of Sentiments was an opening salvo to a much more destructive feminist movement, using violence and coercion through the 20th century, and was behind movements like the "white feather" whereupon guilt was laid on young boys, pushing a generation of males to eradicate one another.
Eric and I were equally critical of males, and the "gaslighting" many experience, right before the 43 min mark.
Why do you believe Eric is controlled opposition?
There is the publicly available version of your claimed 'destructive feminist movement' and there is the one I suugest you are so young as to have never heard about - because women advocating for equality of opportunity (i.e, 'equity' not 'equality' acknowledging we are different) were censored/cancelled. The relatively recent ideological subversion malarky has been going on for decades (as Yuri Bezmenov warned us about). Notably, "divide people into hostile groups by constantly discussing controversial issues of no importance". If you are not a feminist (i.e., advocating equality of opportunity for both men and women) then why not? I suggest you take away your descriptor "destructive" and I repeat, have you read that 1848 document and considered it in the context of the time it was made? As recently as the 1960's, women were forced to resign from public service if they married - and it was not until the 1970's that some of us broke barriers to girls being allowed to study woodwork and metalwork instead of deportment and cookery. It was not until the 1980's (if not later) that we were allowed to train as pilots. We were warned that the advent of equality of opportunity would not change the views of ingrained sexist men - and that many would pass their views down to their sons. In other words, what was overt became covert. Even today, in some cultures, women still have to cover their faces and can't drive cars - because men say so (and, yes, some women are happy to be subordinate - because that has been their entire conditioning since birth). Think for one moment about the invisibility cloak that systematically drapes (and micromanages out) older women in practically every 'civilized' western country - while older men are allowed to continue contributing, despite also being grey haired and wrinkled. Sorry, Roman, but maybe stick to your lane - and maybe choose your friends more wisely.
Here is my interview with Janice Fiamengo, which factchecks the document in the context of the times it was written.
You can be sure I studied this document carefully, along with its context, and that I personally went to Seneca Falls last year to see and document the location where it was signed, visit the museum and talk to the guides. One of them told me a real whopper when he left out the history of "AN ACT for the effectual protection of the property of married women" passed into law several months before the Seneca Falls convention.
There are many core lies of the document. They include how women cannot have wealth; they cannot get educated; and all men want to enslave all women. There were many wealthy women in the room. Stanton herself was educated at the Troy Seminary, Oberlin was accepting women, and there were many other women's colleges being formed. The reason was their fathers wanted their daughters to be educated.
But if you read only the Declaration of Sentiments (sentiments? Really?) you would know none of that. But the most disgusting lie is that "all men want to enslave all women." This is a lie that is on the scale of Joseph Goebbels. A great many men care deeply for their mothers, wives, sisters and daughters and would do anything for them, whether work in a coal mine to support them or go to war to protect them.
I reject out of hand the entire document based on this most disturbing, revolting false premise.
I am a former radical feminist; my literary specialty as a Master's candidate was 20th century women poets (Rutgers, under Dr. Carol Smith), including Piercy, Plath, H.D., Rich, and others. I can practically recite Diving Into the Wreck. I have nearly memorized Compulsory Heterosexality.
Though I was never a gender studies student, I read many of the noted works of 19th and 20th century feminism and was close friends with (and astrologer for 25 years to) Betty Dodson (1929-2020), the founder and pioneer of sexpositive feminism and the author of SEX FOR ONE.
The missing context of the Seneca Falls document is the electrical revolution. And that is what I cover in this discussion and on my program ongoing. We are still in it, and women are not doing well in digital times. Many are desperately lonely, alienated and out of contact with their bodies. They continue to suppress menstruation, abort children and have "top surgery" so they can pretend to be men.
Here is a detailed discussion on Seneca Falls "Declaration of Sentiments" with Janice Fiamengo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOC5vFzug4U