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Thank you for this episode I have had my SaunaSpace panel since 2016 - I got a good price as it was a new company. I was attracted to the portability and low EMF. Of course I had to measure to check for myself when it arrived. It is low EMF as it says on the tin! I found using it for 20 mins lowered my blood pressure and helped me sleep better. I don't use it as much as I should.

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Thank you so much Katie for sharing your feedback! Do you remember where you first heard about SaunaSpace?

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I second that red light therapy accelerates wound healing, swelling as well as optically "reduce" scarring after a minor surgery. My doctor who conducted the surgery was wondering why my wounds seemed to heal around 25 % faster compared to other patients.

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Thanks so much for sharing your experience Okisuke - it's hard to believe until we actually see it, but wow. How many sessions thereabouts did you have to do?

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I totally agree. We can read a lot of papers, but if you see the results first hand it completely changes the paradigm around red light therapy.

To be more specific it was an eyelid surgery which is very popular in Asian countries. In my case it was so subtle that almost no one noticed a change, because I like it natural.

I know 2 family members who had the exact same surgery by the same clinic and guess who had the fastest wound healing and less scars? I received the red light therapy from a dermatologist during my ozone treatment as a free bonus. Only 5 sessions for around 25 to 30 min for such a dramatic effect. But I have to admit that I was also eating organic meat every 2nd day and sometimes bone marrow during my health trip which also contributed to the wound healing.

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Yall brought the heat with this episode no pun intended. It was interesting to find out that not all saunas are created equal.

I'm gonna check out these bulbs on their website. I'm tired of LEDs.

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Thanks 🙏 so much Jonathan! It was a pleasure recording this one- very honoured that you felt the heat! When you think about how much melatonin is cancer-protective, and NIR light helps us produce it, it's an amazing way to surgically combat cancer without the knife.

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thanks Roman for a great interview - lots of valuable info

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Thank you so very much Yantra! So glad you got some value out of the show. Have you done an IR sauna before?

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Yes, but not much - partly due to the massive emfs most IFR saunas put out. Anyway, i am primarily interested in the use of red/IFR lights inside my home to mitigate the predominantly blue light transmitted by the "climate friendly" triple-paned "Low-E" windows which transmit neither IFR nor UV in my climate (N CA).

I recently started using a 150 watt "TheraBulb" near-IFR lamp. I find it quite relaxing, and, since i have been using it as my primary light source in the evenings, have been sleeping MUCH better. (I also wear amber blue-blockers whenever on computer, except briefly sometimes around solar noon, but have been doing that for substantially longer - so the IFR light seems to have made am obvious difference in sleep). It also makes me feel like going to bed earlier.

I would be interested in any info you might have about the safe use of IFR, UV and full-spectrum bulbs. At this point i am just guessing, and am not sure of the hazards/downsides.

BTW, in case anyone is researching red and IFR light bulbs, I got a couple of "Flukers" - which are targeted for reptile use, and the light was nice, but there was some weird chemical/smell emanating from the heated bulbs so i quit using them. It was acrid and even made me sneeze.

I just went to the SaunaSpace website, and they have a 'dark light' mode, which makes the background black, which is great! But otherwise their site seems pretty unresponsive - nothing opens up for me when i click on it.

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I remember finding another low EMF timber box sauna through a recommendation, SaunaSpace would have come up in an internet search alongside this. SpaceSauna was a new company, and they were doing a great pilot/intro offer. From 2016 I can see I asked a lot of questions, and Brian and I tried to skype - I don't remember if we got there in the end - the company was rapidly expanding, and he was busy. I was very impressed by the portability and attention to detail, affordability, the concepts of building biology and environmental health in the timbers, fabrics, shielding and bulbs that the founder adopted - so thorough. I finally bit the bullet in July 1, 2018. The tent was and is out of my budget. I mounted my panel on an artist's easel - not ideal, I have to be careful it doesn't topple over. I could have bought a competitor's product from Australia, but I held out for the best. I highly recommend the panel.

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Hello, Roman;

Thank you for this posting. I personally use FIR sauna for 5 years now & really like it. However number of people said because what is going on around us (in terms of saturating people with synthetic biology/nano technology) such sauna is not a good idea. Such sauna would provide particular environment/energy to promote build up of ‘those components’ inside of our bodies. So I personally stopped using sauna for now. Could you comment on this. Thanks.

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Thank you so much Leon for your thoughtful feedback. Yes you are right, and I agree on the EMF aspect of infrared sauna - that's why I stopped as well. Far infrared also doesn't penetrate nearly as far into what's called the optical tissue window of our skin, where all repair and regeneration occurs.

Near infrared (NIR) penetrates much deeper than far infrared (FIR), into this tissue window, and also mimics more of what's available in the solar spectrum than FIR:

https://sauna.space/pages/how-do-infrared-saunas-work

Another reason I love SaunaSpace is due to the fact that their suanas can have a faraday mesh that nullifies EMF.

Does that help answer your question?

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Roman;

I am with you about the need for protection from impact of EMF, I’d also be with you if we had this conversation 4 years ago or early. However things changed in our environment.

You can see what this woman (with IQ 160) says:

https://rumble.com/v3qcoq4-terahertz-q-and-a-sabrina-wallace.html

or my conversation:

https://shawnpaulmelville.substack.com/p/tests-to-see-if-blusheild-emf-protection.

One can make a case that benefits of sauna overweight other staff but I can’t comment on this. Thanks.

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re IFR light bulbs - watch out for the large cone-shaped bulbs which appear to have a red coating over the primary (front) surface. I got one via amazon (from China) which came with a decent adjustable lamp, and looking on the amazon site just now, it looks just like the "BONGBADA 2 Pack Heat Lamp Red Infrared Bulbs PAR38/100 Watts Glass Lamp Bulb for Food Service, Brooder Bulb, Chicks,", also looks like the "Serfory Infrared Light Blub, 275W Near Infrared Red Heat Lamp Blub". It put out a horrible smell, like plastic heating up. I think the coating on the front was some type of plastic (or whatever) - so i would avoid those. The 150 watt near-IFR "TheraBulb" bulb i use is made of actual red glass, and seems great.

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Thanks Yantra for your comment- I will get back to you in this.

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Wow! Quite a stat - that first one about a 40% reduction in deaths from all causes. The not-so-easy thing: so many of us are far from saunas.

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Thank you Elsa. Good point you raise - that's why I like the IR sauna option - it's something that can be bought and put into one's home, without the need for expensive infrastructure, water piping etc.

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What is the approximate cost? (If you gave it, I missed it.)

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Thanks Elsa, yes the cost ranges from $3900 US to $6400, financing available:

https://sauna.space/pages/infrared-saunas

They have many other products, like stand alone red lights, that can be used in the home and provide similar benefit.

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I absolutely LOVE this light therapy! I may splurge and get a single (travel) stand alone light. I’m a MAJOR 🌞person, and the winter and cold really affect my mood. I get very depressed with the light change/no sun. Thank you for this recommendation Roman!

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Having a 40% lower chance of dying - not a bad price.

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Yes, unless one can’t afford that or convince your spouse...it’s not exactly easy to come up with that kind of money. I’m wondering if I buy one replacement light if I can use it in a regular heat lamp base? I understand the benefits of the beautiful sauna he has designed, it is beyond my reach financially. 😬

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Thank you Cynthia - sorry I'm just getting to your comment now. Are you asking about a replacement light from Sauna Space, like this one?

https://sauna.space/products/thermalight-infrared-bulb

You would still need to get a clamp. I use these at home:

https://www.amazon.com/EP-Adjustable-Reflector-Amphibian-Incubating/dp/B0BN12RCZ3/ref=sr_1_15?crid=2K0L8CMAL336Y&keywords=chicken+incubator+lamp&qid=1702308993&sprefix=chicken+lamp+incub%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-15

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Go to a coop....they sell red light heat lamps for chicks or young animals born in winter and it'll cost you less than a hundred dollars per lamp including bulb.

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Purchased one of the single lamp devices today. I'd like to have one of their saunas, but I first have to clear the space for it.

I need something to provide IR since it's winter time and I can't sunbathe outside. I'm hoping this is the missing link in my health strategy. Thanks for your focus on Jack Kruse and the importance of red light!

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